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#19642 - 03/15/08 10:38 AM Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem
bnold Offline
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Hello I have an Ocelot controller linked to a 2500 SECU-16IR...

I recently moved the hardware to a new machine and I am unable to get the Ocelot to recognize the 2500 SECU-16IR? I have tried to auto address. Checked all connections, tried different com ports, etc... Any advice would be great.

When trying to auto address, the manual states that after 30 seconds the active lights should begin to blink rapidly which they never do, they just blink in 3 blink spurts every so often as usual... Using C-Max I am able to communicate with the Ocelot, so I dont think it is a Comm problem there???


Very new at all this and just use this hardware for basic TV IR commands, so dont really know much about it... Be easy on me!

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#19643 - 03/15/08 10:43 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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Have you tried holding the button down in the SECU16IR for at least a couple of seconds during the autoaddressing procedure?
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#19644 - 03/15/08 10:53 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: Guy Lavoie]
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Yes I have,
thanks for the response

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#19645 - 03/15/08 10:57 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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Just a bit more info if any helps:
On Ocelot the Active light Blinks 3 times every 3-4seconds
X-10/IR light always Off
Com light Always Off


SECU16IR Power light on
Comms off

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#19646 - 03/15/08 12:41 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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Does the Comms LED start to blink when you start the autoaddressing procedure?
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#19647 - 03/15/08 07:42 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: Guy Lavoie]
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No dont believe so...
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#19648 - 03/16/08 03:30 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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Could you use the controller utilities to "Retrieve Controller Parameters" and list parameters 0 to 26 here, like this:

parameter, value
0, 1345
1, 3
.
.
etc.
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#19660 - 03/17/08 02:37 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: Guy Lavoie]
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Yes I can do that and recieve results like what you posted
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#19665 - 03/18/08 05:02 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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But I wanted you to list the actual values that you were getting... for parameters 0 to 26
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#19667 - 03/18/08 08:56 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: Guy Lavoie]
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0- 839
1- 0
2- 0
3- 1
4- 0
5- 1
6- 3
7- 0
8- 15
9- 15
10- 2
11- 4
12- 0
13- 0
14- 0
15- 0
16- 0
17- 1
18- 0
19- 0
20- 500
21- 0
22- 128
23- 0
24- 0
25- 5
26- 1

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#19668 - 03/18/08 09:07 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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I don't see anything too unusual with the parameters. With parameter 3 being set to 1, the Ocelot should be scanning for a module at address 1 when powering up. Power it off and then back on, and observe the comms LED on the Ocelot. Does it blink (very short blinks) once or twice? This would indicate that it is looking for module(s). If it does, then retry the autoaddressing procedure and again, look at the comms LED to see if it blinks at all when you go into the procedure.
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#19715 - 03/30/08 08:12 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: Guy Lavoie]
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Well when I came in this morning the Comms lights were on and Cmax found the module...
Haven't touched this in 2 weeks now. Just decided to work.

I've had issues with this before and seemed to fix it with multiple power cycles until they decided to work together? Any idea on why this is?

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#19718 - 03/31/08 10:10 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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Are the Ocelot and Module powered from the same power supply?

Kevin Barrett
ADI Tech Support

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#20381 - 10/17/08 01:26 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: ADI Tech Support]
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Started having trouble with this again this week.... Been working ok since I last posted...

Seems as though every couple of weeks I would have to unplug the SECU-16 IR and plug it back in to readdress... a pain really... Especially when that means the TVs didn't turn on like they were supposed to that morning. (fitness center tvs... Supposed to be on at 5am, if it didn't work then they would stay off until 8am when employees arrive.. Get some not so nice letters in the 'suggestion box' when this happens)

To answer the question above, yes they are sharing the same power supply. The one shipped with either the Ocelot or SECU... Dont really remember.

What can I do to aid in the consistancy of the controllers?
How about my addressing problem? Been trying for about an hour now...

Doesn't seem to matter what I do.
Ocelot
Active light blinks 4 times every 4-5seconds
Comm light blinks 3 times upon startup and then blinks rapidly once after the 4 active light blinks

SECU
Power Light solid
Comm blinks once upon startup and then off

Controller Parameters:
0- 924
1- 0
2- 0
3- 1
4- 1
5- 1
6- 3
7- 0
8- 15
9- 15
10- 2
11- 4
12- 0
13- 0
14- 0
15- 0
16- 0
17- 1
18- 0
19- 0
20- 500
21- 0
22- 128
23- 0
24- 0
25- 5
26- 1


Any help is appreciated

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#20404 - 10/22/08 04:41 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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Can anybody help me with this? Or suggest different hardware that is more stable? Really need this up and working... was hoping for a response in 4 days...

-Brian

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#20405 - 10/22/08 05:46 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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Check the current rating of the power supply. The power supply that comes with the Ocelot is 200mA, which is what the Ocelot pulls. The SECU16IR pulls about 300mA. If you are only using the power supply that came with the Ocelot, it is not enough to drive both units.

You will need about a 500mA ps for that.

Kevin Barrett
ADI Tech Support

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#20406 - 10/22/08 06:31 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: ADI Tech Support]
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Thanks for the response... Any reason it would have stopped recognizing now after over a year and a half?

Will check the power supply Fri am when I'm back at that office...

Are there other options than this system? I hate to think about switching, but I may need to get something on order in the event that I cant get this system to participate with me...

Thanks again
Brian

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#20411 - 10/24/08 08:13 AM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
bnold Offline
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The amperage was too low on the power supply... I tried a 12VDC 700mA with no change... Going to try and find a 12VAC as I have read gives better/more stable results.

Question still stands as to why the system has worked for more than a year with a 300mA supply... So this may have been a problem, but I doubt 'the' problem..

Please respond

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#20417 - 10/24/08 05:07 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: bnold]
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The other cause that could seem quite possible would be that a RS485 comms chip has gone bad. You might want to get a few (part #75176) chips, they're only about $1 each, and try changing them. These are commonly available at electronic component suppliers.
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#20421 - 10/24/08 08:31 PM Re: Ocelot/ SECU-16IR Communication problem [Re: Guy Lavoie]
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Will try that and post back...

I bought another system to hopefully get me up and running until I can figure this out...

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