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#14965 - 05/25/03 09:14 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot
Peter Young Offline
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Registered: 01/30/03
Posts: 67
Loc: California
Will these systems work to talk to several Leopards on a network? My big problem is constantly bringing leopards back to the office and juggling serial cables every time I need to update them.

Peter

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#14966 - 05/25/03 09:14 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot
Joe Thielen Offline
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Registered: 01/14/03
Posts: 64
Loc: Toledo, OH
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim Beersman:
[qb]Joe, we do not have plans to sell any of the Lantronixs devices (I think I speak for myself and Guy on this).[/qb][/QUOTE]I figured you guys were going to release the info, but with all those extras you got I thought you'd sell some .

I know that some people (myself included), wouldn't mind buying something that worked out of the box for once and didn't require any DIYing . hehe. Seems like everything I do now is DIY. I wasn't happy with my lamps today (the wires), so I drilled holes through the floor, and ran the wiring in the crawlspace. :eek: Looks awesome though. Freestanding lamps, no wires, and automated.

Seriously, great job on digging up this stuff, and I certainly look forward to getting one working!!!

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#14967 - 05/26/03 05:13 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot
Guy Lavoie Administrator Offline
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Registered: 12/21/02
Posts: 6548
Loc: Montreal, QC, Canada
Peter, yes you could install one print server per Leopard. You give each server its own IP address and then configure the Comm port redirector program to create one virtual port for each one. For example, I have 3 of them addressed as follows:

192.168.0.70 Com3
192.168.0.71 Com4
192.168.0.73 Com5

Then I just choose the one I want to "talk" to by going into "Comms Setup" in C-Max and choosing the appropriate Com port. C-Max is nice in that it supports up to Com8. One thing I would like is if C-Max would allow saving the Com port as part of a project, so that loading the project for a given controller would automatically select the right Com port too. The current Com port selection in C-Max setup could be used as a default value. Something for the wish list?

Joe, of the 9 units I have I will be using at least 6 by the time I'm done, so I was stocking up But the majority of you guys are in the US where shipping and costs are so much better. I've lost count of the Ebay auctions I've passed over because the seller will almost always ship to the US only.

But there is no DIY hardware involved in this, aside from making a serial cable to go from the print server's RJ45 serial port to a DB9 connector. This only involves cutting a regular 10baseT patch cord in two and then soldering 4 wires: TxD RxD and the two commons.
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#14968 - 11/28/05 12:17 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot
bvntoys Offline
junior


Registered: 03/03/03
Posts: 27
Loc: Seattle WA
Hi! It's been a long time. I am still using my WinLeopard (CPUXA/TCP/IP) client and Dmax server. I am on my 64th major upgrade to my Ocelot's program. This program controls my HVAC, water, pond filters & pumps, lighting, home theater, and security.
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While I have lots of buttons (X-10 4 & 8 button pads) we have forgotten how to use them. All HID (Human Interface Device) use is with WinLeopard (installed on 7 PC's - 2 are wireless laptops). Transaction out to in ratio is 200 to 1 (mostly due to the virtual thermostat). The client / server code is still in VB-6, though I am learning TCL and WISH to create a more portable code base.
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I am still running the old interpreter (C-max v1). My home automation program has grown to 703 lines. About 1/3 of v1 limit. The original software design has proven to be of value. I have never had an interaction side effect (bug) between code segments - lots of bugs within a segment (such as the HVAC segment). The "information hiding" features of the Dmax language works and meets all my expectations. I have made no improvements to the compiler (it's still Cmax v1 compatible :-(.
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I have improved the Dmax CPUXA/TCP/IP server. 1) Fixed Ocelot communications time-out detection and correction. 2) installed a variable polling frequency of 1 to 15 seconds depending on transaction levels.
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I am currently adding a WinLeopard feature to permit indicators to go off and on depending on the values of variables and timers. Many of my variables are used for subsystem states (HVAC state, water state, pond filter state) and while WinLeopard reports them in text, indicators are more more WAF friendly. Example: the pumps have 5 states (combined). 5 indicators (one on, just like GUI radio buttons) is a better feedback than any text message.
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While the original design of the CPUXA/TCP/IP extensions has proven sufficient (no enhancements or repairs to my original deployment); I have been thinking that having CPUXA/TCP/IP as a byte protocol was a mistake. 100% ASCII would have been a better choice (for easier understanding and simulation). But, then it wouldn't have been an extension of MAD's original design. Any thoughts?

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#14969 - 11/28/05 12:29 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot
bvntoys Offline
junior


Registered: 03/03/03
Posts: 27
Loc: Seattle WA
Oops, forgot to mention. Over the years I have gobbled up my M/P's and had to add a third module about 18 months ago. I see a fourth in my future.
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One very nice thing about the Dmax compiler is the ease of code modification as I recycle M/P and X-10 addresses.
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Also, 13 of my X-10 house codes are in use + 2 reserved for testing new things. Most house codes have more than 8 active device codes. Note: a lot of my automation adventures resulted in non-acceptance by WAF. Fortunately the were easy to undo :-)

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#20972 - 03/26/09 12:20 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Kirby Howell]
Sash181 Offline
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Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
Hi Guy's,

I know this is a really old thread, but I cannot get my hands on a ESP1 anymore and even more difficult to get one in Australia.

Are there any alternatives???

Is anyone willing to sell me one of theirs and send it to me? I'd gladly pay postage.

How big are these units?

I would really like to get my Pocket PC controlling my Leo II.

I would appreciate any help.

Cheers
Sash

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#20973 - 03/26/09 07:00 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Sash181]
Guy Lavoie Administrator Offline
Beyond All Hope
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Registered: 12/21/02
Posts: 6548
Loc: Montreal, QC, Canada
The print server is a Lantronix EPS1, not ESP1. I'm sure that other items called "Device Servers" would work just as well. I used the EPS1 simnply because it was easily available and inexpensive.
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#20974 - 03/26/09 09:36 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Guy Lavoie]
dahlheim Offline
junior


Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 43
perhaps not the best place for the question, but...:

"WinLeopard"?

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#20975 - 03/26/09 01:19 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: dahlheim]
Sash181 Offline
newbie


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
What's Winleopard?

Has anyone managed to get access to their Leopard or ocelot via the web?

Like control lighting etc. via the web?

Guy: You willing to part with one of your many EPS1's?

Cheers
Sash

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#20976 - 03/26/09 01:37 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Sash181]
dahlheim Offline
junior


Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 43
you can use HA software (i.e. Homeseer, or HAL) to interface your ocelot/leo with the internet. i'd imagine one could do the same with home-rolled software and one of those "eps1's".
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#20982 - 03/29/09 01:17 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: dahlheim]
Sash181 Offline
newbie


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
This requires a PC to be on all the time.

Not what I was after.

I'd still like to track down a EPS1 if someone has one.

Cheers
Sash

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#20984 - 03/29/09 01:32 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Sash181]
Guy Lavoie Administrator Offline
Beyond All Hope
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Registered: 12/21/02
Posts: 6548
Loc: Montreal, QC, Canada
I could send you one if you really cannot get one locally. These boxes are not very big, about 6 inches x 3 inches, and three quarters of inch thick. You need a 12 vdc 1 amp power supply, and you need to make a RJ45 to DB9 cable (cut one end off a 10baseT network cable and solder on a DB9 male connect to 4 of the wires). If you feel you want to tackle this, send me a private email (click on my name to see email address) and we'll work something out.
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#20985 - 03/29/09 01:36 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Guy Lavoie]
Sash181 Offline
newbie


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
PM sent guy...

Basically, i would love to take up your offer for an EPS1.

I live in Australia so it will need to be posted.

Cheers
Sash


Edited by Sash181 (03/29/09 04:45 PM)

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#20998 - 04/01/09 08:19 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Sash181]
Sash181 Offline
newbie


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
Ok, hardware almost sorted, now to start on the other bits of the puzzle.

How can you pass on X10 & IR commands via the web using the EPS1?

I would love to have a HTML webpage that can trigger X10 & IR commands via the web into the EPS1 and have the Leo II do the work.

Cheers
Sash

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#20999 - 04/02/09 09:07 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Sash181]
Sash181 Offline
newbie


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
No one's accessed their Leo or Ocelot via the web without using a PC & Program???

Cheers
Sash

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#21001 - 04/03/09 09:25 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Sash181]
dahlheim Offline
junior


Registered: 12/31/08
Posts: 43
just in the interest of providing more information in this thread for others for future reference, i'd like to add that one can do this with a networked PC and not consume a lot of power. the PC can be set up to automatically go to into suspend mode and then be awakened by Wake On LAN broadcasts, for example. the PC i have running all the time only consumes about 21 Watts, and this can be reduced as well. it was very inexpensive to build (probably $200US in total). it's a very flexible option, providing far more capability than simply controlling the Ocelot/Leo of course.

that being said, here's a "bump" for Sash...

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#21012 - 04/08/09 12:06 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: dahlheim]
Sash181 Offline
newbie


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
Anyone??

Cheers
Sash

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#21043 - 04/16/09 05:56 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Sash181]
Joe Kane Offline
journeyman


Registered: 03/12/03
Posts: 90
You can still find the EPS1s on ebay, although they are more scarce.

There is also the EPS2, about the double size and twice the ports, and usually the price, but runs the same way.

I just did a quick search on ebay and there are a few available.

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#21044 - 04/16/09 06:04 PM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Joe Kane]
Guy Lavoie Administrator Offline
Beyond All Hope
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Registered: 12/21/02
Posts: 6548
Loc: Montreal, QC, Canada
The EPS2 would be fine. It has an extra parallel port though (and still only one serial port).
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#21045 - 04/17/09 01:42 AM Re: Networking LeopardOcelot [Re: Guy Lavoie]
Sash181 Offline
newbie


Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 23
Ok, the hardware is sorted.....

I now have an EPS1 working with my Leo II.

I can telnet, use Cmax etc over my LAN.

The next piece of the puzzle is how to get a HMTL webpage setup (hosted on a small webserver on my LAN - like Xport so so need for a PC to be on all the time) that can make a connection somehow with the EPS1 to pass on X10 & IR commands to the Leo....

I imagine this will be the hard part.

Any ideas guys?

Cheers
Sash

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