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#14665 - 10/25/04 05:32 AM Re: Ed's HA Installation (Read this first)
edr Offline
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Loc: south jersey
Guy nailed it.

Ed

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#14666 - 10/25/04 12:48 PM Re: Ed's HA Installation (Read this first)
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Registered: 09/02/04
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Loc: San Diego
Ed, I have one last question regarding the current sensor. As the washer progresses thru the wash and spin cycles, does the washer's current ever drop below the detection threshold of the CR9321 current sensor (350mA)? For example, just before the washer starts the spin cycle, I would guess that the only power usage is the small timer motor. Likewise, my washer has a "soak" cycle when the clothes just sit for a few minutes without running the agitator. In both cases not much current is being drawn by the washer.

If the timer motor draws over 350mA, then the CR9321 should work great, otherwise the Ocelot will have to time the periods when no current is detected to determine when the washer has acually finished.

Steve

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#14667 - 10/25/04 03:51 PM Re: Ed's HA Installation (Read this first)
Eddie Rockets Offline
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Registered: 01/24/03
Posts: 11
Just wanted to put my 1.8 cents in...

If this is your concern, Run a test. Get a Amp Probe and run the washer through its cycles. You can use a clamp on Amp METER with true RMS.Go to your panel and find the ckt with the washer and clamp on to it, Note, most amp meters can read Milliamps if not loop the wire around the clamp.
Just remeber to multiply the number of loops with your reading..

Dont want to be a smarty pants, But I think you just want to tell the Ocelot when the washer is on..Correct?

If so, Find the schematic to your washer, Look at the timer. Im sure the timer has power to it through out the wash cycles..Find the out what voltage the timer works on, and tap on a control relay (that you supply)that will activate when the washers timer is in action and will close a set of contacts on the relay. Then you can tie the contacts to a SECU-16 To monitor the state of the relay you put in the washer.. BADA BING
the Ocelot knows when the washer is on.
Hope this helps you.

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#14668 - 10/26/04 04:26 AM Re: Ed's HA Installation (Read this first)
edr Offline
junior


Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 40
Loc: south jersey
Steve,
In my case the timer motor is enough, it runs
for a complete cycle, weather agitator is turning or not.
You could and a turn through the ct if your's
doesn't draw enough.
you could also and a timer to debounce if you need
to.
I was fortunate had ct's in mind when i bought
the washer and dryer(mechanical timers)
Good luck with yours.
ed

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#14669 - 10/26/04 04:35 AM Re: Ed's HA Installation (Read this first)
edr Offline
junior


Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 40
Loc: south jersey
steve and eddie,
Eddie's idea is a good one and will work well.
However i would give the ct's a good try.
Reasons, no extra wires from washer or dryer for
serviceman to blame faults on, or void warranty
for.
Happy Automating
Ed

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#14670 - 10/26/04 09:38 AM Re: Ed's HA Installation (Read this first)
kinkeads Offline
junior


Registered: 09/02/04
Posts: 39
Loc: San Diego
Thanks Eddie and Ed,
I thought about wiring directly to the washer's timer, but it's probably 2 or 3 hours work and my "to-do" is booked solid to 2005. Plus, I'll be buying a new washer in a year to two since the current one keeps rusting despite the thick coat of rust-oleum I applied! The CR device should work on the my current washer and the future replacement.

I'm glad to hear the timer motor is enough to trigger the CR. Just wanted to be sure before I spent $50 on a pair of them.

Thanks,
Steve

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